How To Install Jolly Trim

09-28-2011, 07:48 AM

Accept been reading upwards on alot of stuff the last month on here. Had a friend who is a contractor install the schluter system in our basement. For some reason she installed the pebble tiles on the floor and decided I should finish. I am a avid diyer and a girl! I completed the tile work last weekend and started to grout due west/ the epoxy grout by Mapei yesterday. For some reason I didn't notice until yesterday that I did the curb wrong. I didn't put the "jolly trim" past schulter out far plenty to meet up w/ the tiles on the front and back of the adjourn. I could've just shot myself.
She is too busy w/ harvest and working to come take a peek, but I'thousand guessing I'm merely stuck w/ what I have. If I take off the tiles on top of the curb i could risk wrecking the kerdi membrane correct? The tiles would have to be recut which would be easy but I'd have to chisel/sand off the mortar somehow Name: 064.JPG Views: 57109 Size: 62.6 KB

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Name: 066.jpg Views: 11105 Size: 30.2 KB . Let me know if you lot remember this is possible or to just leave it as is and attempt to grout it upwards with the mapei epoxy grout. It is a basement shower for our daughter, not seen by many but just bums me out, I was pretty proud of my work until that point.
Have the solar day off today and was planning on finishing information technology upward today.

09-28-2011, 08:xxx AM

LeAnn,

If your kerdi was installed properly, then the tiles are cosmetic and thus, if you can live with the expect, it will be fine grouted.

1- does the superlative of the curb have a 1/iv" per human foot slope to the inside of the shower?

2- Taking off the peak tiles and resetting them would be a good offset pick.

iii- redoing the unabridged curb would be better choice #2

09-28-2011, 08:30 AM

Hi LeAnn,

The answer to a few question would aid u.s.a. empathise how well the tiles on height of the curb are bonded.

1) What did you lot use for setting fabric for these tiles? Getting specific is very helpful.
two) Did you spread the mortar and printing the dry out tiles onto the mortar or did you too spread some mortar onto the backs of the tiles and press them in identify?
3) Practise you know what "burning" a glaze of thinset with the flat side of the trowel is and did you do it to either the Kerdi side or the backs of the tiles?
4) How long did you lot wait betwixt spreading the mortar and pressing the tiles in identify?
v) By any adventure, was it hot or very dry while you lot were working?

09-28-2011, 09:28 AM

I used TEC sparse set plus mortar, came in 50lb bag. 3/8" trowel(?)if that is correct terminology. I spread the thinset on kerdi membrane first, notched it. Cut my tiles to incorrectly fit the jolly.... I did spread extra thinset on tiles since beingness the curb and all. I don't call up how much time had passed between mixing the mortar upwardly and laying those tiles obviously. Information technology was not hot or cold in basement, possibly 65degrees, no humidity ie. dehumidifier running.

CabotandRowe. I did non install the adjourn/kerdi membrane so can't actually reply the slope question, could enquire my contractor I guess.

I just need to know if I accept off the tiles on the meridian, scrape off the mortar and try not to "wreck" the membrane is that a feasible selection. I know it would go dorsum on the "right" way then. If I grout it as is, information technology seems the grout wouldn't set upward every bit I would desire it to, ascetically that is. Sucks that I didn't catch it right abroad, didn't pay attention til grout time and and so noticed "how in the heck am I supposed to do that" oh probably because you lot screwed it up.

09-28-2011, 10:05 AM

Since your tiles have been in place for 2 to 4 days, you take to assume that the thinset has cured sufficiently plenty to tear the Kerdi if yous tried to pry the tiles off. In that case, the way to remove the tile is to pause information technology autonomously by chipping at the center with a hammer and cold chisel. Essentially, y'all will be pulverizing the tile and thinset so the piddling pieces tin can be picked off more easily. Some thinset will remain. Grind that off with a mason's rub stone, stopping when you start to run into some orangish showing through. What thinset is yet there won't exist a problem.

This volition be boring work, and so don't arrive a bustle. If you do manage to tear the Kerdi, you lot can patch it if there is enough room for a 2" overlap, or you lot tin can smear some Kerdi-set over the tear.

09-28-2011, 10:09 AM

You can try gently smashing the peak tiles. Apply enough force to interruption the tiles and the bond beneath, but not striking so difficult as to harm the substrate which should exist kerdi over drywall or kerdi over CBU. Use a normal metallic hammer.

In one case the tiles have a few cracks, pop off the pieces without trigger-happy into the kerdi. Remaining thinset tin can be ground downwardly or scraped down. Permit us know if there is any damage to the kerdi. A few pics would help.

09-28-2011, 10:17 AM

I'm sorry to say but that doesn't look that good. I would remove it.

I would not have used the Jolly on the curb and used the Rondec.
also if you practise it again you can align the tile on top to the tile on the curb face.

09-28-2011, 03:18 PM

Cheers everyone, never claimed to be a professional merely since it is a basement shower, I fabricated it still esthetically pleasing and left it alone. Grouting is all done, just ran enough grout along the curb and jolly to cover the tiles. If it isn't waterproof then I guess I learned my lesson.

Thank you all for your input, it is nice to know that people have somewhere to await for this kind of info.
LeAnn

09-29-2011, xi:24 AM

i like your tile choices though...was wondering if you lot used a kerdi pan with your install

are the tiles travertine or porcelain?....

09-28-2011, 08:30 AM	#iii
Moderator -- Wisconsin Kitchen & Bath Remodeler Join Date: February 2005 Location: Oak Creek, WI Posts: 23,158	Hi LeAnn, The answer to a few question would aid u.s.a. empathise how well the tiles on height of the curb are bonded. 1) What did you lot use for setting fabric for these tiles? Getting specific is very helpful. two) Did you spread the mortar and printing the dry out tiles onto the mortar or did you too spread some mortar onto the backs of the tiles and press them in identify? 3) Practise you know what "burning" a glaze of thinset with the flat side of the trowel is and did you do it to either the Kerdi side or the backs of the tiles? 4) How long did you lot wait betwixt spreading the mortar and pressing the tiles in identify? v) By any adventure, was it hot or very dry while you lot were working?

09-28-2011, 03:18 PM	#viii
Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: southern MN Posts: 3	Cheers everyone, never claimed to be a professional merely since it is a basement shower, I fabricated it still esthetically pleasing and left it alone. Grouting is all done, just ran enough grout along the curb and jolly to cover the tiles. If it isn't waterproof then I guess I learned my lesson. Thank you all for your input, it is nice to know that people have somewhere to await for this kind of info. LeAnn __________________ LeAnn

09-29-2011, xi:24 AM	#9
Registered User Bring together Date: Sep 2022 Posts: 42	i like your tile choices though...was wondering if you lot used a kerdi pan with your install are the tiles travertine or porcelain?.... __________________ rick

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09-28-2011, 10:05 AM	#5
Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 30,274	Since your tiles have been in place for 2 to 4 days, you take to assume that the thinset has cured sufficiently plenty to tear the Kerdi if yous tried to pry the tiles off. In that case, the way to remove the tile is to pause information technology autonomously by chipping at the center with a hammer and cold chisel. Essentially, y'all will be pulverizing the tile and thinset so the piddling pieces tin can be picked off more easily. Some thinset will remain. Grind that off with a mason's rub stone, stopping when you start to run into some orangish showing through. What thinset is yet there won't exist a problem. This volition be boring work, and so don't arrive a bustle. If you do manage to tear the Kerdi, you lot can patch it if there is enough room for a 2" overlap, or you lot tin can smear some Kerdi-set over the tear.

09-28-2011, 10:17 AM	#7
Tampa Florida Tile Contractor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 26,489	I'm sorry to say but that doesn't look that good. I would remove it. I would not have used the Jolly on the curb and used the Rondec. also if you practise it again you can align the tile on top to the tile on the curb face.